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[AppleDash]

And it sucks that you feel that way.

It sucks that it still feels like elementary school where everyone gets punished for a few kids being bad just so kids learn about social pressure to comply. It’s not fair that good people feel they have to be invisible because there’s a bunch of bad people being very visible. I don’t like generalizations where we sweep good people in with bad just because you share a physical feature. So I try to assume that everyone is in a neutral position until you prove otherwise. We’re all here for our own reasons. I’m sure there’s plenty of different reasons for being here. But for those looking for connection, it doesn’t seem too productive when they write off 90% of the population here as automatically evil. But oh well. That’s their prerogative and they are entitled to their opinion and their process. Just my 2¢.

Thanks for your reply. Yes, it does suck. Yes, it feels like primary school all over again being caught between a rock and hard place. It also doesn't help that my brain works in such a way that I easily end up with worst-case scenarios on anything. Then again, if this is what being a "real alpha male" is all about, then I'll pass and I'll watch the conversation go by here on the forum.

 

[hedgestonegrey88]

I have always said as a joke (even if there is an ounce of truth) the more a man has testosterone in his body, the stupider he is

Wasn't there a similar joke but they swapped the men and testostrone with Women and Esterogen. Or was that a Menopause joke?

 

[FleshConnerz]

It seems very discriminatory to say that all people that share a physical trait are bad. That’s kinda how racism works and we can mostly all agree racism is bad. But for some reason using the same logic against other traits is perfectly fine for a lot of people these days.

I agree, there are so many double standard, hypocritical, illogical “thinking” these days. We love putting labels to things and people so that we feel more comfortable about what or who they are. How stupid and wasteful is that kind of thinking. I love EDM, when I was in the military on the weekends I

It seems very discriminatory to say that all people that share a physical trait are bad. That’s kinda how racism works and we can mostly all agree racism is bad. But for some reason using the same logic against other traits is perfectly fine for a lot of people these days

It seems very discriminatory to say that all people that share a physical trait are bad. That’s kinda how racism works and we can mostly all agree racism is bad. But for some reason using the same logic against other traits is perfectly fine for a lot of people these days.

I totally agree. Sadly people are becoming less and less cordial w/ one another for a myriad of reasons. It’s so much easier to simply go w/ popular opinions rather than seeking out one’s own experience and thinking. It’s so much easier when you can simply put everything into a box marked misc. instead of taking the time to actually look and see what’s in it. As a heterosexual male I find it extremely irritating and bullshit that the world takes on a sort of socially acceptable view of men’s behavior as a collective. All men cheat, we will fuck anything that will let us and we are all liars, we are seen this way not because of any rational thought other then because we’re men. While on the surface, a cheating boyfriend/ husband is seen as disapproving behavior, in truth, we have made it less offensive and tolerable by merely saying “ well that’s how men are, what do you expect”. No that’s not how men are, that how that man is. Independent thinking is becoming a less and less popular and automated label makers are trending

 

[onit2018]

It seems very discriminatory to say that all people that share a physical trait are bad. That’s kinda how racism works and we can mostly all agree racism is bad. But for some reason using the same logic against other traits is perfectly fine for a lot of people these days.

Thank you for saying this.

 

[SexyKerry]

I get guys all the time. I choose the leave and ignore future messages on any guy who is not a settler or above. I will respond to some males who are settlers or above because they have been around and are usually polite.
I don’t engage the others. Using the “leave and ignore” option takes care of it.

I do, I’m just not into them

 

[saddlebum66]

The basic reality of platforms like this is twofold. One reality is expecting very much from most of the so-called "males" here. They seem to have a belief that any REAL female will prefer a human male to any k9 companion. Misogyny is a normal thing for them. I'm pretty sure theyhad mothers, but I doubt they had fathers....at least any they could be sure of...

The other problem is related, but not identical. Most of these clowns would wet themselves walking up to the doorbell of a meet. They often claim to be looking for a relationship, but they wouldn't know one if theh fell over her. Adulting is hard, so they stay at kidult level....full grown physically, but mentally? Ten
...twelve, tops.
As Dogluver pointed out....turn them over to the mods....That's their job, getting rid of those who think they can harass anyone they feel like and get away with it....but the mods can't help if no one reports them. They won't tell anyone who complained, but if the complaint is warranted, they will bounce the offender. That's in everyone's best interest.

 

[knotme0820]

I only made it through the first page and called it quits but have to ask the question: in real life should we be looking for people wearing signs announcing what they are doing? When I go grocery shopping are others supposed to leave me alone because I’m grocery shopping?

Reminds me of the first time an ex got pissed because I talked to a woman who stopped to pet our dog and strike up small talk while at the bar. I never realized being polite is flirting and up until then didn’t realize when a woman talks to a man she is flirting. At least that’s what I got out of it, and yeah that was a nail in the lid of our relationships coffin. So when y’all go to the bar do you just go to drink? And some query what’s happened to the country and world

 

[iwanttobeabottom]

So when y’all go to the bar do you just go to drink?

On the rare occasions I went to the bar, yes.

 

[humananimal]

It's scary these days with social media and calling out guys for looking in the direction of a female person. I make a point not to look in the direction of a female person while in the gym or public.

could be.
Like Lou Reed sang : “take a walk on the wild side”
I will like so many other here at ZV

 

[Ozguy49]

I just get a lot of messages from guys that are genuinely surprised and so grateful for any kind of response or meaningful conversation from a woman. There’s a lot of guys that are just so used to being ignored or called negative things because they said “hi” or because they assumed there was an opening for dirty talk or whatever. As an ugly duckling, I very much understand rejection and being called horrible things. So I get that it sucks for many guys when y’all are lumped into a group just cuz you got a peen and so does the asshole that’s harassing people.

Hallelujah, thank you beautiful angel

 

[Ozguy49]

I've found that most women here are approachable enough for a brief introduction or a simple hello. From there, it's entirely up to them whether they wish to continue the conversation. If they're interested, they'll engage — and if not, that's their choice, which should be respected without question. It's quite straightforward and ultimately just a matter of basic courtesy.

If anything meaningful is to develop, it needs to begin with mutual respect. Honestly, I can understand why some women have chosen to avoid interacting with men altogether. It's also important for men to realise that many of the women here are already content and fulfilled in their own lives. They're not looking for a partner — especially not someone who comes across as pushy or persistent. Respecting that reality is key.

Final piece of advice for the guys:
Make an effort to get involved and be present in this great community — it’s the best way to let your genuine character shine through, and you might be surprised by who takes notice. There are still many women here who are open to meeting the right person, and one quality I really admire about the women who are actively into this lifestyle is that when they see something worth pursuing, they tend to go after it.

My 2 cents worth, good luck everyone

 

[zoocurious02]

A lot of self-reports here. I don’t think many guys are taught boundaries, social cues, etc. Combine that with a horny state of mind when visiting this site and a general culture that expects you to put out and that’s the result. A lot of people saying “just block/report” don’t get it. A lot of people talking about generalization don’t get it.

 

[saddlebum66]

A lot of self-reports here. I don’t think many guys are taught boundaries, social cues, etc. Combine that with a horny state of mind when visiting this site and a general culture that expects you to put out and that’s the result. A lot of people saying “just block/report” don’t get it. A lot of people talking about generalization don’t get it.

We get it....but we are not their fathers( at least, I am not). There's little that will help a male with no boundaries, and no social skills, shy of a serious session in the Woodshed a couple of times a week.
If you are being harassed, report it. The time you save may be your own. Trust me, the punks already seem to own the world, but they do not own the site, nor the individuals who use it.