What is wrong with some men here and everywhere?

[allyfitz]

Your post was completely emotional in response, that certainly doesn't define the logical understanding on what determines consent or non-consent.

Not that I expect a serious answer... but are you autistic or trolling.

 

[FloofyNewfie]

but I'm under no illusions that this is a porn site

This site is what you make of it. For some it's nothing more than a website to fap with. For others it's a site where they get to express themselves about something that means very much to them, but something taboo in society e.g. having a love relationship with animals that sometimes includes consensual sex. For some it's a site to play around in the fun and games section and post memes. It's really a master of all trades. But I wouldn't call it *just* a porn site.

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

This site is what you make of it.

 

[DogWhore4U]

Most people in the world would say sex with an animal isn't natural or normal... so that argument isn't going to work here.


If you want to have a gander at my understanding of science... Read my https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threa...-male-human-female-gamete-interactions.52333/ thread.


This seems like a good way to show everyone just how out of touch this guy is. And maybe my responses will be read by a guy who's not beyond hope and he'll turn back from the path of becoming someone like this dude.


First off... you're the one who said it was "a fabricated notion of politics".
Secondly... its not hard to consent... but its a choice. I dont have to choose to. I can choose not to just as easily as I can choose not to.
As to what 'determines' whether I consent or not... well a lot of things.


Dear god you are so full of bullshit it's not even funny.
Trust me, women know precisely why we dont consent to guys. And here's a little education for you... the number one reason is usually guys that are so inept that they dont understand anything outside of their own twisted view of the world based on them wanting to get their dick wet.


What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.



And probably 90% of the women on here would be miserable in a long-term relationships with one of these guys, because they clearly lack understanding about women.


What's that line in the ... "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks". I'd bet that you're focused on control because clearly that's what matters to you, and to go further... the very thing you get off on. So you think 'controlling others' is just as important for everyone else... but its not. We dont go around thinking about how to control people. Thinking that everyone is like that is something a sociopath would think.

So... What are women afraid of with men? oh gee... idk... maybe millennia of evolution has given women an innate concern when it comes to men and sex because sex fora women is a much higher risk than it is for men. For most of human history a guy could fuck a girl and walk away and have no consequences to worry about. A woman on the other hand could get pregnant and then have to deal with pregnancy and raising a child for years and years.
Sex is inherently a more dangerous activity for women. That's why historically women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men on the other hand are the gatekeepers of relationships. Women choose what men they want to have sex with, men choose what women they want to support. Millennia of that dichotomy has resulted in women being overly cautious when it comes to sex with men.
It's not rocket science... it's evolutionary psychology. Clearly something you know nothing about.

As for women being afraid of sharing this fetish with a man... fucking many are. All it takes is him to say one thing and our lives are effectively over. Prison is a real thing to worry about for a lot of women, and even if they avoid that... the social stigma will follow them for the rest of their lives. And since it's clear most men are unable to keep pics and videos private... just see practically every video shared on this site... many women are not willing to discuss this with any man in the real world or open up to a man in the real world about it because we know the consequences if he cant keep his mouth shut.
A recent example is the girl on twitter that information about her got out and she lost her job over it. She idiotically thought the LGBT community would protect her... but even they weren't stupid enough to touching that shit.


Because you're an asshole we dont want you in our life. That's why. We dont like you or like guys like you.
It's not us... its you.

Every women who's been treated like a piece of meat by a guy knows what to look out for. The fact that you've boiled down women to "their hole" and "being bred" is pretty clear evidence that you see women as nothing more than a masturbatory aide... and surprise surprise... most women dont appreciate that. Sure when we're horny we might, but that's a very small % of our lives.

The worst part is... You are actively making it harder for the decent guys on a site like this because you're such a overt example of how horrible guys can be. I've met a ton of great guys on this site, they are here... but you, your antics, and guys like them... make it harder on the decent men on this site. You are actively driving women to be more fearful and worried about the men they meet on a site like this.
And that's sad... and I do mean that... because the nice guys I've met on this site... I want them to be able to find someone they can be with and be happy with.

I have met many more women that have run off with a man's child than I ever have men who just impregnate and leave. I have never seen a guy actually leave a woman, except on very rare occasion, yet it is not the same vice versa.

The last girl I was with went around to all her friends, family, and co workers telling them this sob story of how she has two "runaway dad's", well guess what...she tried getting sex out of me when I wanted to get to know her better first...she ran off with both those man's kids, and tried getting me involved in a third child incident with her.

The girl before that cheated on me, and tried having sex with me to make me believe it was mine...ran off with that man's kid.

My biological mother...had me, ran away, had my little brother, ran away, had a little girl, ran away, had another little girl, ran away.

I know no man that has ever impregnated a woman and doesn't want to be with her. I have seen dozens of women run away with a guy's kids, and I've seen these men try and work things out with them, only for the girls to lie to a courthouse for a restraining order and run off with the man's kids.

It's your social skills that I see are your problem. The false accusations and nastiness, the false stereotyping of me and other men, and the crazy bs replies and poor communication you've shown here is why you can't keep a man. It's not their dic pics, it's just whatever craziness goes on and fuels your false beliefs and such, that makes you communicate the way you do.

I will hope you make an effort to better value others and be more considerate, because a person with a personality that you've shown is not something any man will ever value, and I say that to you in honesty and with good intent, so that you are aware of it to make a change for yourself and make something better of your life. I'm sorry you've had so many hardships and misfortunes that you think and treat men this way, it makes me sad to see women so broken and ruined.

 

[Keepinitlowkey]

Could I just remind everyone that this “dogwhore4u” was saying something about getting a video recording of your girl fucking a dog so you can use it against them at a later date.
I don’t know why this guy is even here, or why anyone try’s to explain anything to him. If anything he’s going to use everyone’s advice to further manipulate women. I noticed someone offer to dry fuck him with a baseball bat. If you’re close enough, Please do.

 

[DogWhore4U]

@allyfitz


What always amuses me is if these guys were to even try just a tiny, wee little bit to see our side of things, they'd likely get their dick a helluva lot wetter far more frequently, because sadly the bar is that low.

Funny. What makes you think we want our dicks wet? You think I'd trust a woman enough to fuck her and not run off with my kids after or before my child is born? You ladies may think you have guys all figured out, but the truth is you are far from it.

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

Funny. What makes you think we want our dicks wet? You think I'd trust a woman enough to fuck her and not run off with my kids after or before my child is born? You ladies may think you have guys all figured out, but the truth is you are far from it.

 

[FloofyNewfie]

So you agree that dick pics are wrong, yet nudity is not, so you agree that nudism is natural and normal, as well as modest.

You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not? The latter of which ironically enough, in itself is completely unnatural. Nothing in nature takes photography with electronic man-made devices.

So to live ideal and in ease, you would agree to be unnatural and...even evil in life, to retain a life of civilization? To what extreme would you indulge in society to remain at ease and comfortability? If your taxes were raised you'd go along with, if those taxes were used to make animal and property ownership illegal, you'd go with it.

Irrelevant to any point that's been made thus far. You yourself act in an unnatural manner by living in a civilization. So again, You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not?

I do agree that in nature we'd all be naked. But we don't live in nature do we? We live in a state of unnatural-ness. With it comes the expectation of modesty. You can dance around this all that you like, but it is an escapable fact.

 

[DogWhore4U]

Not that I expect a serious answer... but are you autistic or trolling.

Neither, you never answered any actual question with an actual answer outside of "because I want to", "because I can", "because because". I saw nothing intelligible or coherent...all I saw was you throwing a hissy fit with an attitude and answering questions without actually answering them.

Just because you have emotions, and they are important to you, does not mean that your emotional roller coaster should control your logic, or your domestic life, as well as the negative effects it may cause to a partner and children.

To make something last with a guy, it's important to be logical, and not base everything on emotion. Same applies to men vice versa, and should be more respectful to women for their emotional values, but we can't let those emotions override logic, especially when it harms others in our life.

 

[allyfitz]

It's your social skills that I see are your problem.

I will hope you make an effort to better value others and be more considerate, because a person with a personality that you've shown is not something any man will ever value, and I say that to you in honesty and with good intent, so that you are aware of it to make a change for yourself and make something better of your life.

It is true, I am an ignorant guy just like the rest, but that does not mean I don't want to learn or better myself to make something last with a woman, and to do that I want to understand the logic behind such things.

Yet you ignore and refute what women are telling you.

I genuinely couldn't tell if you're a sociopath or you're trolling.

But then you said this...

I know no man that has ever impregnated a woman and doesn't want to be with her.

So trolling it is then...

I've been on the interwebz for a while... I've done some trolling and even some gaslighting... I know the joy of giggling when you get someone riled up. So its possible that we may share a kinship in being bastards behind pseudonyms. So if you are trolling... I understand what you are doing and why you do it.

But a funny thing happened several years ago... I stopped caring and grew up. None of the shit I used to play with was fun anymore. Toying with peons and watching them get upset at nonsense arguments suddenly gave me no pleasure... and after a while I couldn't even find the desire to look for new people to get lulz from.

Now I'm a different person. I know for a fact that if I could find now the twat I was, I'd beat the shit out of her. Not because what she did was wrong... though it probably was... but because she wasted life that could have better been spent doing other things. Now I'm enjoying the world in the ways I know was intended. I'm doing things which give me a sense of fulfillment. Sure those things aren't lulzy but they are meaningful. I know that probably sounds pretty faggy to you... but there's something there you're missing.

Maybe you trolling will have a positive effect in some weird twisted way. Maybe some dude will see you being an asshole and think 'nah I can be better than that.'' I hope something positive comes out of it for all our sakes. Regardless of how epic or lulzy you think your trolling is... it's not. It needs to be reigned in... not for my sake... but for the other guys here who you are hurting.

Alas, I don't think anything I'll say will register with you. I don't think you have the capability for anything complex because, to be frank, everything you've said has the signature of a child. You're shown through many comments that you are unwilling to understand what others have said and are unwilling to gain any insight from them. You're acting like an edgy teenager who's just watched some youtube video about sexual dynamics and thinks you understand everything.

You will eventually tire of this game because eventually you're going to grow up. Just remember when you do that it's not important what you do - it's who you are.

So please, just take a moment and sit down, and I'll tell you a story about how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.

 

[DogWhore4U]

You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not? The latter of which ironically enough, in itself is completely unnatural. Nothing in nature takes photography with electronic man-made devices.


Irrelevant to any point that's been made thus far. You yourself act in an unnatural manner by living in a civilization. So again, You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not?

I do agree that in nature we'd all be naked. But we don't live in nature do we? We live in a state of unnatural-ness. With it comes the expectation of modesty. You can dance around this all that you like, but it is an escapable fact.

So what then is the difference in sight from your retinas and brain of "hairy little Joe" that is in a picture compared to a real nude sight of the member?

 

[FloofyNewfie]

So what then is the difference in sight from your retinas and brain of "hairy little Joe" that is in a picture compared to a real nude sight of the member?

Look how he dances around the questions and misses the point yet again...

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

So what then is the difference in sight from your retinas and brain of "hairy little Joe" that is in a picture compared to a real nude sight of the member?

Hey man, I literally just strolled in here to see what everyone was doing, and I mean this sincerely, you may want to take a breather, give it a day and come back and re-read this thread. You've (from an outsider's viewpoint) gone off the rails a bit

 

[allyfitz]

Hey man, I literally just strolled in here to see what everyone was doing, and I mean this sincerely, you may want to take a breather, give it a day and come back and re-read this thread. You've (from an outsider's viewpoint) gone off the rails a bit

 

[DogWhore4U]

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Yet you ignore and refute what women are telling you.

I genuinely couldn't tell if you're a sociopath or you're trolling.

But then you said this...



So trolling it is then...

I've been on the interwebz for a while... I've done some trolling and even some gaslighting... I know the joy of giggling when you get someone riled up. So its possible that we may share a kinship in being bastards behind pseudonyms. So if you are trolling... I understand what you are doing and why you do it.

But a funny thing happened several years ago... I stopped caring and grew up. None of the shit I used to play with was fun anymore. Toying with peons and watching them get upset at nonsense arguments suddenly gave me no pleasure... and after a while I couldn't even find the desire to look for new people to get lulz from.

Now I'm a different person. I know for a fact that if I could find now the twat I was, I'd beat the shit out of her. Not because what she did was wrong... though it probably was... but because she wasted life that could have better been spent doing other things. Now I'm enjoying the world in the ways I know was intended. I'm doing things which give me a sense of fulfillment. Sure those things aren't lulzy but they are meaningful. I know that probably sounds pretty faggy to you... but there's something there you're missing.

Maybe you trolling will have a positive effect in some weird twisted way. Maybe some dude will see you being an asshole and think 'nah I can be better than that.'' I hope something positive comes out of it for all our sakes. Regardless of how epic or lulzy you think your trolling is... it's not. It needs to be reigned in... not for my sake... but for the other guys here who you are hurting.

Alas, I don't think anything I'll say will register with you. I don't think you have the capability for anything complex because, to be frank, everything you've said has the signature of a child. You're shown through many comments that you are unwilling to understand what others have said and are unwilling to gain any insight from them. You're acting like an edgy teenager who's just watched some youtube video about sexual dynamics and thinks you understand everything.

You will eventually tire of this game because eventually you're going to grow up. Just remember when you do that it's not important what you do - it's who you are.

So please, just take a moment and sit down, and I'll tell you a story about how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.

I can assure you I'm not "trolling". I can say you are picking up ideas in your head and running with them.

This entire post, and the previous ones have been nothing but false accusations and personal attacks, all because you have some false beliefs about myself and other men.

I have read every post in this thread, and I agreed with most of the other gals, at least the ones that didn't have some false notion about men.

So you think men are only out for sex, and that's all they want? That's why you have made the false assumptions and beliefs about me here?

I can assure you that is not what I seek with a woman, and I can positively say that I speak for most men as well. That does not mean we don't have needs. Sometimes a guy doesn't know how to really say what he actually means or feels. I know I've had things I've wanted to say, and sometimes they come out completely different than what I actually mean or feel. You know, I made a mistake with one girl I was with by telling her I didn't like her music, but that didn't mean I didn't really, really like her, or that I meant to bluntly say it or offend her. What I really meant to tell her was I would like for her to slow down and not sexually aroused me at work, because I want to get to know her better and have something real with her.

Just because you see someone pointing out the basic fundamental simplicity of a situation, does not mean that I or guys in generally just want sex, it just means that there's a very simple approach to this.

Despite your attitude and personal attacks, and false assumptions of me (and men in general) I'd even take you out to dinner and catch a movie with you. That doesn't mean Id jump right on you for sex, but that also doesn't mean I don't have needs, and a guy's doing a dick pic is just their way of trying to simplify it all and make it easy. It doesn't mean they want to just get their dick wet and leave or even not get to know you.

 

[DogWhore4U]

Look how he dances around the questions and misses the point yet again...

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Touche. It's mutual.

 

[allyfitz]

You know, I made a mistake with one girl I was with by telling her I didn't like her music,[...]. What I really meant to tell her was I would like for her to slow down and not sexually aroused me at work,[...].

I think this troll is using ChatGPT or something.
There is no way a rational human being would have said those two sentences back to back.
Which is ironic coming from someone who wants to ask about "logic" all the time.

 

[Keepinitlowkey]

I think this troll is using ChatGPT or something.
There is no way a rational human being would have said those two sentences back to back.
Which is ironic coming from someone who wants to ask about "logic" all the time.

This guy claims to me a manager at a fast food restaurant, and try’s to fuck all of his younger employees. My ex had an manager just like this. Thought he was some hot shot McDonald’s manager driving a rusty Toyota Camry lmao.

 

[allyfitz]

If they’re in my inbox, there’s mostly an imposition - I’m expected to compliment it, or respond by saying what I’d like to do with it, or maybe return the favor with pictures of my parts.

I got to the point where I needed to start mocking them when they did it to keep from getting angry. So now I respond to dick pics with...

 

[allyfitz]

This guy claims to me a manager at a fast food restaurant

Wow... what a catch. No wonder women are throwing themselves at him. hahaha
This post says he's a video game business owner. https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/looking-for-roommate.70072/post-1653945

 

[FloofyNewfie]

This guy claims to me a manager at a fast food restaurant

Let's hope he doesn't walk around with his dick hanging out. It would be totally tragic if... say... some hot oil happened to "accidentally" get spilled on him by a female subordinate.

 

[Keepinitlowkey]

Let's hope he doesn't walk around with his dick hanging out. It would be totally tragic if... say... some hot oil happened to "accidentally" get spilled on him by a female subordinate.

Burger press!

 

[Keepinitlowkey]

Wow... what a catch. No wonder women are throwing themselves at him. hahaha

Yea. Personally I’m amazed he’s not in a loving relationship with kids….
I really hope he doesn’t ever have kids.

 

[FloofyNewfie]

some hot oil happened to "accidentally" get spilled on him

Burger press!

I can hear him now and it sounds a little bit like this...

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[allyfitz]

If you're actually for real and not trolling...

This entire post, and the previous ones have been nothing but false accusations and personal attacks, all because you have some false beliefs about myself and other men.

Just because you disagree with something I believe does not make what I believe false. It means we have a difference of opinion about things.
You are not the arbiter of truth about reality.
I'm not basing my comments on false beliefs about you. I read your comments in several other threads. You were given a lot of good advice from people about seeking counseling... and you really should listen to them.
You've dealt with shit in your life... guess what... almost everyone has. We get over it and grow up. We dont hold grudges against other people because people in the past treated us bad.

@MishaCZ has said it better than I would at this hour.

Dude, if you are even just a half self important and self gratifying as you are being here, no wonder that they run away as soon as they learn that.

Yeah, there must be some reason why women broke up with you once you started a life together, and it is very well possible that some of them just didn't know what they were getting into, let fantasies took over their mind and when they sobered up from them they realised that it's not what they wanted. But I can assure you that we didn't all just come to an agreement together to secretly hate men and just try to use them.
Maybe, if this is a reoccurring case for you, it's time to consider that you might be the problem. Because so far you do an excellent job at putting all the blame on women you have (or even haven't) been with and you didn't try to analyse a thing about some problem being at your end.
And this by itself is a major red flag. No woman wants to be with someone who does an excelent job at guilting and shaming his exes.
Again, speak to a progessional. Someone who can be objective when listening to you and who can analyse your behaviour. You can be an unfortunate saint for all I know. But you may very well not be and they are the only one capable of telling you that and giving you an advice how to change that.

Seriously, go back and read what people said to you in that thread and take advantage of the advice people have given you.

 

[AngryGoose]

Men have needs. If they have a dick pic they need their needs met, and who's job is it to do that?

If a guy has a dick pick and his needs aren't being met, he's going to have it as his pic so that you are talking to his cock, just as you should. You should adore and worship his cock, and even give it a name, hell knit a wedding tux fit just for his small pecker and marry "little hairy joe".

I mean, not necessarily

Your entire post is nothing but pointing your finger at guys, and not analyzing your own problem. Did it ever work out for you you're way, is the question? When you can't either conform, or at least meet a guy halfway to have common ground, is when you're stuck as a single women for 15 or more years. And God forbid you don't have kids to take care of during your lonely celibacy.

I think you might be into something there, she doesn't have anything about the nude pics of women and I think she's using it as an excuse to lash out at men dude to personal issues

Instead of being hateful and nasty, why don't you try and actual conversation with one of these guys, I think you'll find that they have a soul, they have feelings and emotions and a personality just like you do. You don't see me bitching about seeing cunt. Guys can bitch about a loose cunt, and I can bitch about a tight one.

Exactly

The thing guys have to keep in mind is that their dick size in the zoo community doesn't matter. You can be 4in or 14in and the vast majority of both men and women want a zoo-compatible relationship, and each of us guys know that whether we're 4 or 14 that we want the woman we're with to have dog and horse cock, which means we know you're going to be loosey-goosey and that our dic pics and even our actual dicks is not the game here, but what women need to keep in mind is the fact that we still have needs.

I mean... I haven't thought about that before

Instead of men showing off like that they should get to know a woman and they'd have more success, and instead of women trying to get to know a guy they should focus on their needs. So, while you point your finger at men, they are all pointing their fingers at you too.

Maybe, Ive gotten to know plenty of women in here and they messaged me as I won't approach them, I imagine having dudes approach you all day everyday would get fucking tiring especially seeing I have a dick pic but the unintentional side effect is that the women who do message are either horny af or fairly sexual in nature which is something I like in people, whether it's male it female

And fyi I know many many women that like all kinds of dick, big and small. I like big and small dick too. Why don't you try an actual convo with one of these guys, and go on a real date and there would be less dick pics.

Idk why some people don't like small dicks, like big ones are nice but sometimes they can be too big and small ones still look good but they're easier to play with seeing I don't really take it up the ass often

 

[AngryGoose]

I value naturality and voyeurism. I would want a relationship with a woman that was open about her body. That tells me a lot about her personality; if she's open about her most intimate self (her naked parts) then she's prone to have decent qualities men look for in a woman, such as being open, honest, and not insecure. That helps make a lasting social connection.

Exactly, like each to their own but I'd like a chick that's as open as I am if I wanted a long term relationship with one but honestly I come from a family if women with less than five dudes so I think I'd rather have a bloke in my life for the long term unless the right woman came along

 

[AngryGoose]

All false.


Many dick pic guys claim to get women on a regular basis, yet still we have dick pics.

I think they were talking about a relationship not fuck buddies and one offs

The claim that guys need to be serviced every day is far from true. I am a man who typically likes to have sex only every other day, and consider myself a fairly high sex individual. Despite this I have been perfectly happy in relationships in the past where my partner had a lower sex drive, and probably most importantly statistics show that on average couples only have sex about once a week.

Sorry bud, you're probably average sex drive at most... I'm high sex drive and I can fuck a few times a day but people say I'm a bit of a freak

Weird... I have so many married friends who have always had negative opinions of dick pics. All of them, in fact.

You ask your married friends about dick pics? Why...?

 

[AngryGoose]

If you're actually for real and not trolling...


Just because you disagree with something I believe does not make what I believe false. It means we have a difference of opinion about things.
You are not the arbiter of truth about reality.
I'm not basing my comments on false beliefs about you. I read your comments in several other threads. You were given a lot of good advice from people about seeking counseling... and you really should listen to them.
You've dealt with shit in your life... guess what... almost everyone has. We get over it and grow up. We dont hold grudges against other people because people in the past treated us bad.

@MishaCZ has said it better than I would at this hour.

So what makes you the arbiter of truth?? Also why did you jump to passive aggressively attacking their mental health?? If they did have mental health would that mean they're no longer allowed a valid opinion?? And people with real problems don't get over it, they carry it forever and just adapt too it which usually means your problems weren't as bad as you think so don't weaponise them in an arguement... Who knows maybe my licensed therapist doesn't know what he's talking about

Seriously, go back and read what people said to you in that thread and take advantage of the advice people have given you.

 

[Keepinitlowkey]

I think they were talking about a relationship not fuck buddies and one offs

Sorry bud, you're probably average sex drive at most... I'm high sex drive and I can fuck a few times a day but people say I'm a bit of a freak

You ask your married friends about dick pics? Why...?

Ever heard the saying “tell us your a piece of shit without directly saying it” ?
Agreeing with dogwhore4u is exactly how you do that.