What is wrong with some men here and everywhere?

I'm happy to talk to anyone on here who's polite and interesting and can hold up their end of the conversation, but I'm under no illusions that this is a porn site - and an extremely niche one at that - so expecting a generally high standard of decorum or discourse is a fool's errand. My avatar's a suggestive orange, so I've really got no room to talk.
 
@allyfitz
Dear god you are so full of bullshit it's not even funny.
Trust me, women know precisely why we dont consent to guys. And here's a little education for you... the number one reason is usually guys that are so inept that they dont understand anything outside of their own twisted view of the world based on them wanting to get their dick wet.

What always amuses me is if these guys were to even try just a tiny, wee little bit to see our side of things, they'd likely get their dick a helluva lot wetter far more frequently, because sadly the bar is that low.
 
My avatar's a suggestive orange, so I've really got no room to talk.
On the contrary... that shows that you at least put some thought into your avatar and you decided to be somewhat clever.
That makes you far more interesting than someone who thinks... "let me take pic of my junk..."
 
@allyfitz


What always amuses me is if these guys were to even try just a tiny, wee little bit to see our side of things, they'd likely get their dick a helluva lot wetter far more frequently, because sadly the bar is that low.
IKR. They seem to envision women as chaste Victorian maindens who feint at the mere mention of something uncouth. Yet most of the time all we are really asking is... dont be a raging asshole narcissist.
 
My first sexual experience was with a Christian priest when I was 11. Because "the natural course of nature" is the strong preying on the weak, you're saying consent is a fabricated notion in that instance? His ramming fingers in my now-bleeding vagina are an esoteric notion where you can't understand the concept of "consent".

This is an argument sociopaths and pedos use. Thus:

Your Pedophilia is showing.

Give consent? It's the third Tuesday of the fourth lunar cycle, so I choose to consent.
Not give consent? It's the third Tuesday of the fourth lunar cycle, BUT! Your armpits stink, so no consent.

What you see as arbitrary is the point. I'll spell it out for you: Why someone consents to you isn't relevant. What's relevant is it's their choice.

Now you're talkin'. You should just stick with that and leave your Troll half in the dank, stinky basement corner to argue with the other pedo-style lozers.

I'm quite cognizant of why and with whom I consent, and able to eloquently state it for you.

We really haven't. You've stated personal desires and opinions and asserted them as facts. An unsound argument, but quite revealing of deeper personality disorders.

So let me break it down. Again, as a woman, I'm not afraid to give consent. Quite the contrary: I hereby consent to dry-ass-fucking you with a baseball bat until you bleed rectally. After that, I'll tell you you don't understand consent and are too afraid to give it.

And a pox on me for feeding the trolls.
It's probably best to create a hypothetical scenario instead of posting such things.

I am sorry to hear you had such an experience at such a premature time.

The urge in a man is something that is overlooked and not cared for by community leaders, scientists, and the sort. I can tell you that the rapid production of sperm cells in a man can make them do things they'd other wise never do, and the only ways to do that is sexual release or holding it in. In the instance of holding it in, can turn out good if the guy can maintain himself, but the urge to release grows stronger until he either gives in or feels his pineal and pituitary gland in the center of his brain crack open with a sharp pain. In the instance of release, guys have options such as their hands, animals, or human mates.

People who do that to children do it because they don't have a woman for sexual release, and instead of rape they think that doing what happened to you is the safe way to stay out of trouble. That just goes back to the point that men have needs, and they need met, and when they are not met (i.e. women refusing to engage in a relationship) it comes out bad. That's why we have high crime rates.

I'm a human too, and I don't appreciate you attitude and accusations. Those are very offensive and inappropriate. I will say that as a woman you deserve to be treated with respect and a choice, but that does not change the fact that understanding the logic behind it as important for men. I value a woman for who she is, which also means I want to understand her so I can respect her.

It is true, I am an ignorant guy just like the rest, but that does not mean I don't want to learn or better myself to make something last with a woman, and to do that I want to understand the logic behind such things.

Your post was completely emotional in response, that certainly doesn't define the logical understanding on what determines consent or non-consent. You're last line makes some insight on the value of consent, but it would also be painful and uncomfortable...are you implying that sex is the same way for you, which is why consent is hard for you?
 
@DogWhore4U
but that does not mean I don't want to learn or better myself to make something last with a woman, and to do that I want to understand the logic behind such things

I sensed that which was why I said this earlier:

I’d see a little more thoughtfulness and empathy in what you’ve said if I saw a little more mutuality in the words you chose, but so far what I'm reading hovers around what the guy wants, seeks and needs. Maybe that’s not what you intend which is why I’m pointing it out to you.
 
You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not? The latter of which ironically enough, in itself is completely unnatural. Nothing in nature takes photography with electronic man-made devices. However, as I pointed out, the line of thinking surrounding justifying dick pictures being natural cannot hold up to scrutiny.


I do not. As stated, if you want to live naturally you'd move to the barren planes of Africa, live off of the land, and run around as naked as you'd like to be, as nature intended for humanity. But this life wouldn't be ideal nor easy, would it? It's easier to live amongst the civilized populous and the creature comforts and protection that comes with it. But by doing so, you're expected to be modest. So when the people of said civilization calls you out for exposing yourself against their will, their vitriol is to be expected.
So you agree that dick pics are wrong, yet nudity is not, so you agree that nudism is natural and normal, as well as modest.

Would idealism and ease be unnatural, and does it have to incorporate technology or other man-made technologies?

So to live ideal and in ease, you would agree to be unnatural and...even evil in life, to retain a life of civilization? To what extreme would you indulge in society to remain at ease and comfortability? If your taxes were raised you'd go along with, if those taxes were used to make animal and property ownership illegal, you'd go with it.

Just because society (government) makes things ideal and easy (despite unnatural), does not mean it is right (or that you) should play along with it, simply because you're required to be modest in exchange for idealism and ease, it just means you should stand up and do something about, not run away to a foreign Country.
 
but I'm under no illusions that this is a porn site
This site is what you make of it. For some it's nothing more than a website to fap with. For others it's a site where they get to express themselves about something that means very much to them, but something taboo in society e.g. having a love relationship with animals that sometimes includes consensual sex. For some it's a site to play around in the fun and games section and post memes. It's really a master of all trades. But I wouldn't call it *just* a porn site.
 
Most people in the world would say sex with an animal isn't natural or normal... so that argument isn't going to work here.


If you want to have a gander at my understanding of science... Read my https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threa...-male-human-female-gamete-interactions.52333/ thread.


This seems like a good way to show everyone just how out of touch this guy is. And maybe my responses will be read by a guy who's not beyond hope and he'll turn back from the path of becoming someone like this dude.


First off... you're the one who said it was "a fabricated notion of politics".
Secondly... its not hard to consent... but its a choice. I dont have to choose to. I can choose not to just as easily as I can choose not to.
As to what 'determines' whether I consent or not... well a lot of things.


Dear god you are so full of bullshit it's not even funny.
Trust me, women know precisely why we dont consent to guys. And here's a little education for you... the number one reason is usually guys that are so inept that they dont understand anything outside of their own twisted view of the world based on them wanting to get their dick wet.


What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.



And probably 90% of the women on here would be miserable in a long-term relationships with one of these guys, because they clearly lack understanding about women.


What's that line in the ... "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks". I'd bet that you're focused on control because clearly that's what matters to you, and to go further... the very thing you get off on. So you think 'controlling others' is just as important for everyone else... but its not. We dont go around thinking about how to control people. Thinking that everyone is like that is something a sociopath would think.

So... What are women afraid of with men? oh gee... idk... maybe millennia of evolution has given women an innate concern when it comes to men and sex because sex fora women is a much higher risk than it is for men. For most of human history a guy could fuck a girl and walk away and have no consequences to worry about. A woman on the other hand could get pregnant and then have to deal with pregnancy and raising a child for years and years.
Sex is inherently a more dangerous activity for women. That's why historically women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men on the other hand are the gatekeepers of relationships. Women choose what men they want to have sex with, men choose what women they want to support. Millennia of that dichotomy has resulted in women being overly cautious when it comes to sex with men.
It's not rocket science... it's evolutionary psychology. Clearly something you know nothing about.

As for women being afraid of sharing this fetish with a man... fucking many are. All it takes is him to say one thing and our lives are effectively over. Prison is a real thing to worry about for a lot of women, and even if they avoid that... the social stigma will follow them for the rest of their lives. And since it's clear most men are unable to keep pics and videos private... just see practically every video shared on this site... many women are not willing to discuss this with any man in the real world or open up to a man in the real world about it because we know the consequences if he cant keep his mouth shut.
A recent example is the girl on twitter that information about her got out and she lost her job over it. She idiotically thought the LGBT community would protect her... but even they weren't stupid enough to touching that shit.


Because you're an asshole we dont want you in our life. That's why. We dont like you or like guys like you.
It's not us... its you.

Every women who's been treated like a piece of meat by a guy knows what to look out for. The fact that you've boiled down women to "their hole" and "being bred" is pretty clear evidence that you see women as nothing more than a masturbatory aide... and surprise surprise... most women dont appreciate that. Sure when we're horny we might, but that's a very small % of our lives.

The worst part is... You are actively making it harder for the decent guys on a site like this because you're such a overt example of how horrible guys can be. I've met a ton of great guys on this site, they are here... but you, your antics, and guys like them... make it harder on the decent men on this site. You are actively driving women to be more fearful and worried about the men they meet on a site like this.
And that's sad... and I do mean that... because the nice guys I've met on this site... I want them to be able to find someone they can be with and be happy with.
I have met many more women that have run off with a man's child than I ever have men who just impregnate and leave. I have never seen a guy actually leave a woman, except on very rare occasion, yet it is not the same vice versa.

The last girl I was with went around to all her friends, family, and co workers telling them this sob story of how she has two "runaway dad's", well guess what...she tried getting sex out of me when I wanted to get to know her better first...she ran off with both those man's kids, and tried getting me involved in a third child incident with her.

The girl before that cheated on me, and tried having sex with me to make me believe it was mine...ran off with that man's kid.

My biological mother...had me, ran away, had my little brother, ran away, had a little girl, ran away, had another little girl, ran away.

I know no man that has ever impregnated a woman and doesn't want to be with her. I have seen dozens of women run away with a guy's kids, and I've seen these men try and work things out with them, only for the girls to lie to a courthouse for a restraining order and run off with the man's kids.

It's your social skills that I see are your problem. The false accusations and nastiness, the false stereotyping of me and other men, and the crazy bs replies and poor communication you've shown here is why you can't keep a man. It's not their dic pics, it's just whatever craziness goes on and fuels your false beliefs and such, that makes you communicate the way you do.

I will hope you make an effort to better value others and be more considerate, because a person with a personality that you've shown is not something any man will ever value, and I say that to you in honesty and with good intent, so that you are aware of it to make a change for yourself and make something better of your life. I'm sorry you've had so many hardships and misfortunes that you think and treat men this way, it makes me sad to see women so broken and ruined.
 
Could I just remind everyone that this “dogwhore4u” was saying something about getting a video recording of your girl fucking a dog so you can use it against them at a later date.
I don’t know why this guy is even here, or why anyone try’s to explain anything to him. If anything he’s going to use everyone’s advice to further manipulate women. I noticed someone offer to dry fuck him with a baseball bat. If you’re close enough, Please do.
 
@allyfitz


What always amuses me is if these guys were to even try just a tiny, wee little bit to see our side of things, they'd likely get their dick a helluva lot wetter far more frequently, because sadly the bar is that low.
Funny. What makes you think we want our dicks wet? You think I'd trust a woman enough to fuck her and not run off with my kids after or before my child is born? You ladies may think you have guys all figured out, but the truth is you are far from it.
 
So you agree that dick pics are wrong, yet nudity is not, so you agree that nudism is natural and normal, as well as modest.
You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not? The latter of which ironically enough, in itself is completely unnatural. Nothing in nature takes photography with electronic man-made devices.

So to live ideal and in ease, you would agree to be unnatural and...even evil in life, to retain a life of civilization? To what extreme would you indulge in society to remain at ease and comfortability? If your taxes were raised you'd go along with, if those taxes were used to make animal and property ownership illegal, you'd go with it.
Irrelevant to any point that's been made thus far. You yourself act in an unnatural manner by living in a civilization. So again, You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not?

I do agree that in nature we'd all be naked. But we don't live in nature do we? We live in a state of unnatural-ness. With it comes the expectation of modesty. You can dance around this all that you like, but it is an escapable fact.
 
Not that I expect a serious answer... but are you autistic or trolling.
Neither, you never answered any actual question with an actual answer outside of "because I want to", "because I can", "because because". I saw nothing intelligible or coherent...all I saw was you throwing a hissy fit with an attitude and answering questions without actually answering them.

Just because you have emotions, and they are important to you, does not mean that your emotional roller coaster should control your logic, or your domestic life, as well as the negative effects it may cause to a partner and children.

To make something last with a guy, it's important to be logical, and not base everything on emotion. Same applies to men vice versa, and should be more respectful to women for their emotional values, but we can't let those emotions override logic, especially when it harms others in our life.
 
It's your social skills that I see are your problem.
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I will hope you make an effort to better value others and be more considerate, because a person with a personality that you've shown is not something any man will ever value, and I say that to you in honesty and with good intent, so that you are aware of it to make a change for yourself and make something better of your life.
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It is true, I am an ignorant guy just like the rest, but that does not mean I don't want to learn or better myself to make something last with a woman, and to do that I want to understand the logic behind such things.
Yet you ignore and refute what women are telling you.

I genuinely couldn't tell if you're a sociopath or you're trolling.

But then you said this...

I know no man that has ever impregnated a woman and doesn't want to be with her.

So trolling it is then...

I've been on the interwebz for a while... I've done some trolling and even some gaslighting... I know the joy of giggling when you get someone riled up. So its possible that we may share a kinship in being bastards behind pseudonyms. So if you are trolling... I understand what you are doing and why you do it.

But a funny thing happened several years ago... I stopped caring and grew up. None of the shit I used to play with was fun anymore. Toying with peons and watching them get upset at nonsense arguments suddenly gave me no pleasure... and after a while I couldn't even find the desire to look for new people to get lulz from.

Now I'm a different person. I know for a fact that if I could find now the twat I was, I'd beat the shit out of her. Not because what she did was wrong... though it probably was... but because she wasted life that could have better been spent doing other things. Now I'm enjoying the world in the ways I know was intended. I'm doing things which give me a sense of fulfillment. Sure those things aren't lulzy but they are meaningful. I know that probably sounds pretty faggy to you... but there's something there you're missing.

Maybe you trolling will have a positive effect in some weird twisted way. Maybe some dude will see you being an asshole and think 'nah I can be better than that.'' I hope something positive comes out of it for all our sakes. Regardless of how epic or lulzy you think your trolling is... it's not. It needs to be reigned in... not for my sake... but for the other guys here who you are hurting.

Alas, I don't think anything I'll say will register with you. I don't think you have the capability for anything complex because, to be frank, everything you've said has the signature of a child. You're shown through many comments that you are unwilling to understand what others have said and are unwilling to gain any insight from them. You're acting like an edgy teenager who's just watched some youtube video about sexual dynamics and thinks you understand everything.

You will eventually tire of this game because eventually you're going to grow up. Just remember when you do that it's not important what you do - it's who you are.

So please, just take a moment and sit down, and I'll tell you a story about how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.
 
You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not? The latter of which ironically enough, in itself is completely unnatural. Nothing in nature takes photography with electronic man-made devices.


Irrelevant to any point that's been made thus far. You yourself act in an unnatural manner by living in a civilization. So again, You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not?

I do agree that in nature we'd all be naked. But we don't live in nature do we? We live in a state of unnatural-ness. With it comes the expectation of modesty. You can dance around this all that you like, but it is an escapable fact.
So what then is the difference in sight from your retinas and brain of "hairy little Joe" that is in a picture compared to a real nude sight of the member?
 
So what then is the difference in sight from your retinas and brain of "hairy little Joe" that is in a picture compared to a real nude sight of the member?
Hey man, I literally just strolled in here to see what everyone was doing, and I mean this sincerely, you may want to take a breather, give it a day and come back and re-read this thread. You've (from an outsider's viewpoint) gone off the rails a bit
 
Hey man, I literally just strolled in here to see what everyone was doing, and I mean this sincerely, you may want to take a breather, give it a day and come back and re-read this thread. You've (from an outsider's viewpoint) gone off the rails a bit
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Yet you ignore and refute what women are telling you.

I genuinely couldn't tell if you're a sociopath or you're trolling.

But then you said this...



So trolling it is then...

I've been on the interwebz for a while... I've done some trolling and even some gaslighting... I know the joy of giggling when you get someone riled up. So its possible that we may share a kinship in being bastards behind pseudonyms. So if you are trolling... I understand what you are doing and why you do it.

But a funny thing happened several years ago... I stopped caring and grew up. None of the shit I used to play with was fun anymore. Toying with peons and watching them get upset at nonsense arguments suddenly gave me no pleasure... and after a while I couldn't even find the desire to look for new people to get lulz from.

Now I'm a different person. I know for a fact that if I could find now the twat I was, I'd beat the shit out of her. Not because what she did was wrong... though it probably was... but because she wasted life that could have better been spent doing other things. Now I'm enjoying the world in the ways I know was intended. I'm doing things which give me a sense of fulfillment. Sure those things aren't lulzy but they are meaningful. I know that probably sounds pretty faggy to you... but there's something there you're missing.

Maybe you trolling will have a positive effect in some weird twisted way. Maybe some dude will see you being an asshole and think 'nah I can be better than that.'' I hope something positive comes out of it for all our sakes. Regardless of how epic or lulzy you think your trolling is... it's not. It needs to be reigned in... not for my sake... but for the other guys here who you are hurting.

Alas, I don't think anything I'll say will register with you. I don't think you have the capability for anything complex because, to be frank, everything you've said has the signature of a child. You're shown through many comments that you are unwilling to understand what others have said and are unwilling to gain any insight from them. You're acting like an edgy teenager who's just watched some youtube video about sexual dynamics and thinks you understand everything.

You will eventually tire of this game because eventually you're going to grow up. Just remember when you do that it's not important what you do - it's who you are.

So please, just take a moment and sit down, and I'll tell you a story about how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.
I can assure you I'm not "trolling". I can say you are picking up ideas in your head and running with them.

This entire post, and the previous ones have been nothing but false accusations and personal attacks, all because you have some false beliefs about myself and other men.

I have read every post in this thread, and I agreed with most of the other gals, at least the ones that didn't have some false notion about men.

So you think men are only out for sex, and that's all they want? That's why you have made the false assumptions and beliefs about me here?

I can assure you that is not what I seek with a woman, and I can positively say that I speak for most men as well. That does not mean we don't have needs. Sometimes a guy doesn't know how to really say what he actually means or feels. I know I've had things I've wanted to say, and sometimes they come out completely different than what I actually mean or feel. You know, I made a mistake with one girl I was with by telling her I didn't like her music, but that didn't mean I didn't really, really like her, or that I meant to bluntly say it or offend her. What I really meant to tell her was I would like for her to slow down and not sexually aroused me at work, because I want to get to know her better and have something real with her.

Just because you see someone pointing out the basic fundamental simplicity of a situation, does not mean that I or guys in generally just want sex, it just means that there's a very simple approach to this.

Despite your attitude and personal attacks, and false assumptions of me (and men in general) I'd even take you out to dinner and catch a movie with you. That doesn't mean Id jump right on you for sex, but that also doesn't mean I don't have needs, and a guy's doing a dick pic is just their way of trying to simplify it all and make it easy. It doesn't mean they want to just get their dick wet and leave or even not get to know you.
 
You know, I made a mistake with one girl I was with by telling her I didn't like her music,[...]. What I really meant to tell her was I would like for her to slow down and not sexually aroused me at work,[...].
I think this troll is using ChatGPT or something.
There is no way a rational human being would have said those two sentences back to back.
Which is ironic coming from someone who wants to ask about "logic" all the time.
 
I think this troll is using ChatGPT or something.
There is no way a rational human being would have said those two sentences back to back.
Which is ironic coming from someone who wants to ask about "logic" all the time.
This guy claims to me a manager at a fast food restaurant, and try’s to fuck all of his younger employees. My ex had an manager just like this. Thought he was some hot shot McDonald’s manager driving a rusty Toyota Camry lmao.
 
If they’re in my inbox, there’s mostly an imposition - I’m expected to compliment it, or respond by saying what I’d like to do with it, or maybe return the favor with pictures of my parts.
I got to the point where I needed to start mocking them when they did it to keep from getting angry. So now I respond to dick pics with...
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