What is wrong with some men here and everywhere?

Ok I will weigh in here but Im trying to stay neutral between the sexes. I myself dont do the dick pic thing as I keep that kinda pic only for a select few women and only for the ones I trust and know who request it from me. What we have to keep in mind is that men are from mars and women are from venus. We dont understand each other and probably never will. From my travels and observations throughout the net I have noticed that guys primarily post dick pick to attract people of the same sex. Not of the opposite sex. This seems to work well from the gay forums Ive seen and read. Mind you I am straight and love most things about the female part of our species. I have also found that the females who post vaginal (body) images of themselves (or stolen pics) do it to attract other females attention. Neither party (male or female) really do it to attract people of the opposite sex. Both parties are looking for some sort of recognition and they are selling themselves to the other party in the hope of praise or gratitude. Some could argue that this is due to low self esteem and some would argue that its an easy way to gain some attention. There are many phycological reasons why people do this but the question is ...... do we judge these people for what they show/do or do we just ignore them and do our own thing. Keep in mind NO 2 people are the same and everyone has their own way of perceiving things depending on the way we were raised and what we have been exposed to through our lives. Some people are fortunate to have had a good upbringing and some werent as fortunate for what ever reason. Regardless of the reasons we have to accept that there are many different types of people on this planet (8 billion to be exact) and what we see on these sites are just a drop in the ocean. What is right and what is wrong?????? What is right for one person can be seen as being wrong for another person and what is wrong for one person can be seen as being right for another. Its like the old case which went to court.... A realestate agent took a rental person to court for allegedly not cleaning a premises (after vacating) to the realestates satisfaction. The argument in court was "whats the definition of cleanliness". The ruling was "what is clean for one person is NOT necessarily clean for the other person". The case was found to be in the defendants favor. As it works out it appears that society is moving rapidly towards being LGBTIQ+ so one cant just assume that the dick OR vaginal pics posted is actually there to attract the attention of some one of the opposite sex. As a straight guy I think vaginas are quite ugly at the best of times and some tits are just wrong but that dosent stop me from wanting and loving them and appreciating the contours and pleasures that they bring me. I do appreciate it when a perfectly formed vagina comes into my sight and I dont believe in judging someone for sharing something that they are proud of. I personally dont like the sight of other mans genitals so I just dont look or get all wrapped up in the negative side of this topic. I believe each to their own but if we all took a chill pill and just look at what we want to look at and over look what we dont want to see then we can all move on and be happy. If one of these people who you are disgusted by message you then you have the option to ignore or block them. I cant see why all the drama exists and why people get so wrapped up in what other people do or dont do. We were all born nude so why is it that we have to hide ourselves and our bodies????? It all comes back to what we were taught from a very young age and this was passed down throughout generations. Society has become a bunch of prudes who is very ashamed of who we are. Society in general has no respect for each other or for themselves. Its all about me me me. Very few people are truly givers (majority are takers). If people want to be covered up and clothed then good for them. If people decide to undress and show their beautiful bodies then good for them. Im accepting either way. Maybe we all should be more accepting. Forcing/stalking, NOT taking no for an answer is wrong and should be nipped in the butt. There is nothing wrong with someone trying to make contact with you as long as everyone can be accepting of each others stance. If you DM a person and they dont respond or say they dont wish to chat with you then dont take it personally and leave them alone. After all there are many types or groups of people out there and a LGBTIQ+ (or straight person) might be offended by you approaching them. I know a gay person who is mortified of the idea of hugging a female even if he knows her and its only a hello hug. Sad I know but thats his fear or the like in life so we learnt to accommodate his fear (or whatever one wants to call it). Ive tried to be non judgmental so if you took an offence to my posting then I have to say sorry but I cant help you and I dont care and its your problem (NOT mine). Lets see what everyone thinks of what I have written. Try to stay open minded and have fun. ;):coffee:😘

Oh and BTW......... I dont think there is any place in life for forcing ones self onto any human or animal. It should be all consensual and in the best interest of both parties involved. Even in 3 sum, gangbangs, bukakkes, pet love, bdsm etc etc..........
 
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That middle one alludes exactly to my point. So you admit to your more active sexual drive than the times you actually have sex. Furthermore statistics on sex do not define the point I was making on a man's sex drive. Those statistics can have varying factors involved, such as work schedules, maybe things going on each each person's life that may effect intercourse.

None of which change the fact of a man's sexual needs, and the fact I was making to that point of meeting them.
...didn't I state outright that I have had relationships where my partner was lower sex than I? Obviously in those cases we would not be having sex as often as I might prefer, and yet I was quite happy with them for a time. I've never had one relationship that fell apart for sexual reasons, and one that fell apart despite excellent sexual compatibility (my first GF, the only thing we had in common was our strong sex drives)

The statistics may not make your point, but they do make my point quite exactly. The vast majority of successful relationships do not involve women servicing men daily, and so what you said was completely false.
 
It matters because we all have to see it. I like you @gfad69, but not everyone wants to see your dick.

That's the crux of the issue. The type of people that do this have -zero- care for others. They only care about what they want to do and don't have any respect for anyone else. They want to show everyone their dick... so they're going to. Your opinion, my opinion, someone else's opinion doesn't matter to them. Their desire to force people to see their dick is more important to them than respecting others.
It's not all bad for us though.. there is a slight benefit to this. Simple fact is when you see a profile like that... you know instantly what type of person they are. So they're really easy to avoid. You just have to accept that narcissists are going to be narcissists and learn to recognize them and avoid them... cause they're certainly not going to mature a little and learn to be considerate of anyone else.
I dont know anything about this user in particular, but the fact that he's decided for me that I need to see his dick... tells me everything I need to know.

The solid fact is, if you can't deal with talking to a dick pick, then you can't deal with a real relationship or a man at all in real life, because you'll be seeing his dick daily, and when you bitch about that he boots ur ass out the door because he finds that you can't meet his needs and be compatible.

Apparently you're unfamiliar with this concept we call 'consent'.
If I'm in a relationship with someone... I'm consenting to see their dick everyday.
Some random guy I dont know... no... I'm not consenting to having his dick in my face everyday.
 
...didn't I state outright that I have had relationships where my partner was lower sex than I? Obviously in those cases we would not be having sex as often as I might prefer, and yet I was quite happy with them for a time. I've never had one relationship that fell apart for sexual reasons, and one that fell apart despite excellent sexual compatibility (my first GF, the only thing we had in common was our strong sex drives)

The statistics may not make your point, but they do make my point quite exactly. The vast majority of successful relationships do not involve women servicing men daily, and so what you said was completely false.
Yeah when you wank your crank you're right on track there.
 
That's the crux of the issue. The type of people that do this have -zero- care for others. They only care about what they want to do and don't have any respect for anyone else. They want to show everyone their dick... so they're going to. Your opinion, my opinion, someone else's opinion doesn't matter to them. Their desire to force people to see their dick is more important to them than respecting others.
It's not all bad for us though.. there is a slight benefit to this. Simple fact is when you see a profile like that... you know instantly what type of person they are. So they're really easy to avoid. You just have to accept that narcissists are going to be narcissists and learn to recognize them and avoid them... cause they're certainly not going to mature a little and learn to be considerate of anyone else.
I dont know anything about this user in particular, but the fact that he's decided for me that I need to see his dick... tells me everything I need to know.



Apparently you're unfamiliar with this concept we call 'consent'.
If I'm in a relationship with someone... I'm consenting to see their dick everyday.
Some random guy I dont know... no... I'm not consenting to having his dick in my face everyday.
"Consent" is a fabricated notion of politics meant to derail society from the natural course of nature. Breeding is completely normal and natural. A dog hops up and starts to hump, if the female doesn't like it she moves or fights, sometimes the male obeys and sometimes they don't.

Question isn't about consent or non-consent, it's about WHY (italics). If you could please indulge an ignorant guy like myself on what's hard about consent, and what determines why you would give consent or not, maybe men would have a better understanding on respecting women when it comes to this matter. Because in my mind your arguments and complaints are ridiculous, unmerited, lack logic and human understanding.

Is it hard for a woman to give consent or something? What makes you decide to give consent or not to?
 
Agreed. Nothing wrong with a little self-man-love!
Yes there is. You make yourself a recessive sissy with no man power like that. It's 20 times worse that mountain dew reducing your sperm count, to where you lose our on real cunt when the opportunity arises.
 
@DogWhore4U

The solid fact is, if you can't deal with talking to a dick pick, then you can't deal with a real relationship or a man at all in real life

That doesn't make any sense.

Seeing each other's body parts within a relationship of some kind involves consent. I chose to be with him, he chose to be with me.

A dick pic/avatar being shoved in my face from a total stranger doesn't involve consent at all. It's the equivalent of flashing strangers in a park. In fact, Texas and California call this cyberflashing and it's a now class-C misdemeanor. New Hampshire may have passed the same by now as they were working on such a law too.

And because many, many women feel similar as I do, the men who have dick-pic avatars and/or send unsolicited dick-pics in emails, are significantly reducing the number of women who might actually care they exist.

For many of us, this behavior is grating because of the lack of consent, my consent, to control my experience.

And it sucks to be discounted constantly and everywhere too. I know you'll struggle to see it like this because that's not your experience, and I totally get that.

But, a little thoughtfulness and maybe even a touch of empathy will go a long way.
 
"Consent" is a fabricated notion of politics meant to derail society from the natural course of nature.
Yes there is. You make yourself a recessive sissy with no man power like that.
Guy doesn't believe in consent and apparently has toxic macho ideals when it comes to masturbation... yup, checking out. No point in continuing this conversation.
 
@DogWhore4U



That doesn't make any sense.

Seeing each other's body parts within a relationship of some kind involves consent. I chose to be with him, he chose to be with me.

A dick pic/avatar being shoved in my face from a total stranger doesn't involve consent at all. It's the equivalent of flashing strangers in a park. In fact, Texas and California call this cyberflashing and it's a now class-C misdemeanor. New Hampshire may have passed the same by now as they were working on such a law too.

And because many, many women feel similar as I do, the men who have dick-pic avatars and/or send unsolicited dick-pics in emails, are significantly reducing the number of women who might actually care they exist.

For many of us, this behavior is grating because of the lack of consent, my consent, to control my experience.

And it sucks to be discounted constantly and everywhere too. I know you'll struggle to see it like this because that's not your experience, and I totally get that.

But, a little thoughtfulness and maybe even a touch of empathy will go a long way.
You have my thoughtfulness and understanding, but just know that I'm the kind of guy that would be only with a woman that also has sex with my friends, neighbors and random men. So you and the so-called majority of women you claim that see it you're way have zero chance of even a first date with me...and many many many men are exactly like me, which just means you're chances on a real date or being with the vast majority of men have just been reduced to zero.

You've got to meet a guy halfway and compromise on things, because being all you leaves no room for comparability with a guy and what he wants, seeks, and needs. You've got to learn to do for a partner, and not for yourself, otherwise it'll be a long lonely road.
 
Guy doesn't believe in consent and apparently has toxic macho ideals when it comes to masturbation... yup, checking out. No point in continuing this conversation.
Not just a matter of not believing in consent... but doesn't even understand the concept of it since me bringing it up lacks 'human understanding'... their words not mine.

Because in my mind your arguments and complaints are ridiculous, unmerited, lack logic and human understanding.
 
Not just a matter of not believing in consent... but doesn't even understand the concept of it since me bringing it up lacks 'human understanding'... their words not mine.
That's right. A cunt is a hole, and a dick fills a hole. It's not rocket science. It's easier than 1 +1.
 
You've got to meet a guy halfway and compromise on things, because being all you leaves no room for comparability with a guy and what he wants, seeks, and needs. You've got to learn to do for a partner, and not for yourself, otherwise it'll be a long lonely road.

Let me quote you... and change 2 words...
Guy -> Girl
he -> she

You've got to meet a girl halfway and compromise on things, because being all you leaves no room for comparability with a girl and what she wants, seeks, and needs. You've got to learn to do for a partner, and not for yourself, otherwise it'll be a long lonely road.
 
Your dick has a hole... a screw fills a hole... It's not rocket science. It's easier than 1 + 1.
So I guess you're ok with someone drilling a construction screw into your dick hole.
That's not natural or normal though. Sperm comes out of my dick hole, and sperm goes into your vagina hole, just like it is excreted from my testicles and is fertilized in your womb.

It's all a very very simple understanding of physics and biology. You must have missed that one when you were sleeping in highschool.
 
@allyfitz Don't take him seriously. The reason I say there's no point in continuing the conversation is that when a person starts making such outrageous claims as "consent is a fabricated notion", they're either completely insane or just having some fun with you. Either way, talking to them won't be useful.
Unless you're bored. :gsd_happysmile:
 
@allyfitz Don't take him seriously. The reason I say there's no point in continuing the conversation is that when a person starts making such outrageous claims as "consent is a fabricated notion", they're either completely insane or just having some fun with you. Either way, talking to them won't be useful.
Unless you're bored. :gsd_happysmile:
I resent that. We all know what consent is, what I am asking is why is it hard to consent and what determines hey lady to consent or not consent?

What's hard about it? I'm provoking thought here because I am 100% positive not a single lady on here has the slightest clue on why they choose or not choose to give consent and why they even value it. It's an irrational fear with no logical foundation.

More than 80% of the men on here would be more than happy to have a long-term relationship with one of these women and probably find out that they're more than 90% compatible. Including guys with dick pics. Giving consent is not rocket science and the whole notion of even having to determine consent or non-consent isn't rocket science either. It's all about wanting to be in control it's nothing but a psychological matter of control over the opposite gender and an irrational fear for absolutely no reason.

What are you afraid of? You afraid of actually finding a man that's willing to share your intimacy and fetish?

So now we've boiled the argument down to the fact that women aren't afraid to see dicks, but they're afraid to give consent. Why?
 
My advice for those type of guys is 👉 Only show if the chick you’re talking to asks for a pic, that’s all there is to it. If she doesn’t ask then there’s a 99.9% chance she’s not interested in seeing it in the first place.

Well said.

I, however, LOVE dick pics. Because what I really want to see is the money shot so if you push your dick pic at me, I'm gonna ask for what I want to see.

I have g/fs who are so irritated at the dick pic thing, they're even mad at me for not lock-step hating it, so I usually just keep my mouth shut.

What I hate? Men with dick pic avatars are usually exceptionally boring, complete narcissistic and will tell any lie to get their dick needs on their time without any hint of friendship, or treating me like anything beyond a fuckdoll. It's about them, not a proverbial "us" and certainly not me.

For that reason, I'm 99.99% more likely to respond to a thoughtful message from an avatar picture like @xXSINNERXx than anything else, and very very likely to just block a dick-pic avatar writing "hey". On the whole, guys, unless you back it up with a lot of personality and actual offerings/time put in for friendship, don't do it.
 
You seem to be obsessed with that word... natural. What even is natural? Well, there's two main definitions, one of which is often misused.

Natural, meaning of or occuring in nature.

Natural, meaning procreative sex.

I see you're using some type of man-made artificial device to post to a forum on the interwebs. Do you think such would arise in an undisturbed order of nature? Since you've mentioned you're bisexual, I'm sure you've had sex at some point that did not, nor was intended to, create offspring. Either way you look at it, what you do is objectively unnatural. Yet you sit here and use "natural" as a justification for dick pictures, that's quite hypocritical.

If you want to be "natural" then go live entirely off the land, naked, in the barren planes of Africa away from civilization, because civilization itself more than often is the epitomy of what is unnatural. But if you want live with the civilized then there are expectations that are expected to be met, one of which is modesty.
 
Okay this is a serious question for all the guys out there that put their own dick pic as their profile picture....and then try to find a woman to chat or meet. Do you really think women like this? First thing to see from you is your small ugly hairy dick? Is here a woman that likes this? What do you guys expect from this? That some woman start to chat with you because of your dick pic? Did it ever work out for you?

Then the other thing are the guys in some threads that react to a video like "oh look how the slut is taking it" ... "i bet the whore would like my dick too" ... i mean holy shit we all hope to see many more women having sex with dogs so we can appreciate the content...and some woman may see this bullshit comments and think...no way i keep this totally private because of idiots like this. I mean yeah maybe there are some woman that like to be degraded like this but i think that is the minority.

I mean do whatever you want and act like you want but i really ask myself if you get anything out of this behaviour.
I get this I'm a switch (top and bottom) Receiving a dick pick as the 1st message to a Conversation is THE largest turn off and I won't even reply to that, I need something that's actually engageable like similar hobbies, interests or something.
 
Is it hard for a woman to give consent or something? What makes you decide to give consent or not to?
Give consent? It's the third Tuesday of the fourth lunar cycle, so I choose to consent.
Not give consent? It's the third Tuesday of the fourth lunar cycle, BUT! Your armpits stink, so no consent.

What you see as arbitrary is the point. I'll spell it out for you: Why someone consents to you isn't relevant. What's relevant is it's their choice.
I'm the kind of guy that would be only with a woman that also has sex with my friends, neighbors and random men.
Now you're talkin'. You should just stick with that and leave your Troll half in the dank, stinky basement corner to argue with the other pedo-style lozers.
What's hard about it? I'm provoking thought here because I am 100% positive not a single lady on here has the slightest clue on why they choose or not choose to give consent and why they even value it. It's an irrational fear with no logical foundation.
I'm quite cognizant of why and with whom I consent, and able to eloquently state it for you.
So now we've boiled the argument down ... ...but they're afraid to give consent. Why?
We really haven't. You've stated personal desires and opinions and asserted them as facts. An unsound argument, but quite revealing of deeper personality disorders.

So let me break it down. Again, as a woman, I'm not afraid to give consent. Quite the contrary: I hereby consent to dry-ass-fucking you with a baseball bat until you bleed rectally. After that, I'll tell you you don't understand consent and are too afraid to give it.

And a pox on me for feeding the trolls.
 
You seem to be obsessed with that word... natural. What even is natural? Well, there's two main definitions, one of which is often misused.

Natural, meaning of or occuring in nature.

Natural, meaning procreative sex.

I see you're using some type of man-made artificial device to post to a forum on the interwebs. Do you think such would arise in an undisturbed order of nature? Since you've mentioned you're bisexual, I'm sure you've had sex at some point that did not, nor was intended to, create offspring. Either way you look at it, what you do is objectively unnatural. Yet you sit here and use "natural" as a justification for dick pictures, that's quite hypocritical.

If you want to be "natural" then go live naked in the barren planes of Africa away from civilization, because civilization itself more than often is the epitomy of what is unnatural. But if you want live with the civilized then there are expectations that are expected to be met, one of which is modesty.
You're argument has some merit, and I agree with most of it. However it's conclusion on hypocrisy does not justify the foundation of your argument of "natural vs. unnatural", all you have done is hint at me being hypocritical, which does not prove or support your argument on naturality.

Let me ask you something; do you believe modesty is natural? You have implication that it wasn't yet also implied your value for it. Do you consider modesty to be natural?

Modesty is simply a notion of humanity akin to insecurity, fear, hatred, and an imposition upon the natural laws of science and humanity by ignorant politicians to control a society and make them abide by their rule of thumb...just like immorally imposing beastiality law.

Do you see dogs in clothes? Yet does that make them not modest? You asser that modesty and naturality are in conflict, well a dog with no clothes is both modest and natural, is it not? What sets humans apart from this basic observation?
 
I get this I'm a switch (top and bottom) Receiving a dick pick as the 1st message to a Conversation is THE largest turn off and I won't even reply to that, I need something that's actually engageable like similar hobbies, interests or something.
I feel that way with women, but with guys it's purely a sexual interest. I don't seek intimacy with a guy, but I do with a woman. So it varies for me, and I can see this from both perspectives.
 
@DogWhore4U

You have my thoughtfulness and understanding,

I’d see a little more thoughtfulness and empathy in what you’ve said if I saw a little more mutuality in the words you chose, but so far what I'm reading hovers around what the guy wants, seeks and needs. Maybe that’s not what you intend which is why I’m pointing it out to you.

but just know that I'm the kind of guy that would be only with a woman that also has sex with my friends, neighbors and random men. So you and the so-called majority of women you claim that see it you're way have zero chance of even a first date with me.

You’re right, the women who feel as I do would have zero chance in being with you because of it. And that’s fine. If we cannot agree on how our relationship is to work, in all the ways that will mean for us as a couple, one or both of us will not consent and declare us incompatible. That’s how it works.

You've got to meet a guy halfway and compromise on things, because being all you leaves no room for comparability with a guy and what he wants, seeks, and needs. You've got to learn to do for a partner, and not for yourself, otherwise it'll be a long lonely road.

I don’t have to compromise on anything if I choose not to. Neither do you or anyone else. We’ll just be incompatible and not be together.

Most people do compromise on many things because they realize those particular things are far more important to their partner than it is for them, and they can live with that particular compromise. But if they can't live with that particular compromise, then that's it. Relationship over, or not started to begin with.
 
My first sexual experience was with a Christian priest when I was 11. Because "the natural course of nature" is the strong preying on the weak, you're saying consent is a fabricated notion in that instance? His ramming fingers in my now-bleeding vagina are an esoteric notion where you can't understand the concept of "consent".

This is an argument sociopaths and pedos use. Thus:

Your Pedophilia is showing.

Give consent? It's the third Tuesday of the fourth lunar cycle, so I choose to consent.
Not give consent? It's the third Tuesday of the fourth lunar cycle, BUT! Your armpits stink, so no consent.

What you see as arbitrary is the point. I'll spell it out for you: Why someone consents to you isn't relevant. What's relevant is it's their choice.

Now you're talkin'. You should just stick with that and leave your Troll half in the dank, stinky basement corner to argue with the other pedo-style lozers.

I'm quite cognizant of why and with whom I consent, and able to eloquently state it for you.

We really haven't. You've stated personal desires and opinions and asserted them as facts. An unsound argument, but quite revealing of deeper personality disorders.

So let me break it down. Again, as a woman, I'm not afraid to give consent. Quite the contrary: I hereby consent to dry-ass-fucking you with a baseball bat until you bleed rectally. After that, I'll tell you you don't understand consent and are too afraid to give it.

And a pox on me for feeding the trolls.
Ouch, my asshole hurts now lol
 
You're argument has some merit, and I agree with most of it. However it's conclusion on hypocrisy does not justify the foundation of your argument of "natural vs. unnatural", all you have done is hint at me being hypocritical, which does not prove or support your argument on naturality.
You seem to use "natural" to justify "free" sex and dick pictures, do you not? The latter of which ironically enough, in itself is completely unnatural. Nothing in nature takes photography with electronic man-made devices. However, as I pointed out, the line of thinking surrounding justifying dick pictures being natural cannot hold up to scrutiny.

Let me ask you something; do you believe modesty is natural? You have implication that it wasn't yet also implied your value for it. Do you consider modesty to be natural?
I do not. As stated, if you want to live naturally you'd move to the barren planes of Africa, live off of the land, and run around as naked as you'd like to be, as nature intended for humanity. But this life wouldn't be ideal nor easy, would it? It's easier to live amongst the civilized populous and the creature comforts and protection that comes with it. But by doing so, you're expected to be modest. So when the people of said civilization calls you out for exposing yourself against their will, their vitriol is to be expected.
 
That's not natural or normal though.
Most people in the world would say sex with an animal isn't natural or normal... so that argument isn't going to work here.

Sperm comes out of my dick hole, and sperm goes into your vagina hole, just like it is excreted from my testicles and is fertilized in your womb.
It's all a very very simple understanding of physics and biology. You must have missed that one when you were sleeping in highschool.
If you want to have a gander at my understanding of science... Read my https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threa...-male-human-female-gamete-interactions.52333/ thread.

@allyfitz Don't take him seriously. The reason I say there's no point in continuing the conversation is that when a person starts making such outrageous claims as "consent is a fabricated notion", they're either completely insane or just having some fun with you. Either way, talking to them won't be useful.
Unless you're bored. :gsd_happysmile:
This seems like a good way to show everyone just how out of touch this guy is. And maybe my responses will be read by a guy who's not beyond hope and he'll turn back from the path of becoming someone like this dude.

I resent that. We all know what consent is, what I am asking is why is it hard to consent and what determines hey lady to consent or not consent?
First off... you're the one who said it was "a fabricated notion of politics".
Secondly... its not hard to consent... but its a choice. I dont have to choose to. I can choose not to just as easily as I can choose not to.
As to what 'determines' whether I consent or not... well a lot of things.

What's hard about it? I'm provoking thought here because I am 100% positive not a single lady on here has the slightest clue on why they choose or not choose to give consent and why they even value it.
Dear god you are so full of bullshit it's not even funny.
Trust me, women know precisely why we dont consent to guys. And here's a little education for you... the number one reason is usually guys that are so inept that they dont understand anything outside of their own twisted view of the world based on them wanting to get their dick wet.

It's an irrational fear with no logical foundation.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


More than 80% of the men on here would be more than happy to have a long-term relationship with one of these women and probably find out that they're more than 90% compatible.
And probably 90% of the women on here would be miserable in a long-term relationships with one of these guys, because they clearly lack understanding about women.

It's all about wanting to be in control it's nothing but a psychological matter of control over the opposite gender and an irrational fear for absolutely no reason.
What are you afraid of? You afraid of actually finding a man that's willing to share your intimacy and fetish?
What's that line in the ... "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks". I'd bet that you're focused on control because clearly that's what matters to you, and to go further... the very thing you get off on. So you think 'controlling others' is just as important for everyone else... but its not. We dont go around thinking about how to control people. Thinking that everyone is like that is something a sociopath would think.

So... What are women afraid of with men? oh gee... idk... maybe millennia of evolution has given women an innate concern when it comes to men and sex because sex fora women is a much higher risk than it is for men. For most of human history a guy could fuck a girl and walk away and have no consequences to worry about. A woman on the other hand could get pregnant and then have to deal with pregnancy and raising a child for years and years.
Sex is inherently a more dangerous activity for women. That's why historically women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men on the other hand are the gatekeepers of relationships. Women choose what men they want to have sex with, men choose what women they want to support. Millennia of that dichotomy has resulted in women being overly cautious when it comes to sex with men.
It's not rocket science... it's evolutionary psychology. Clearly something you know nothing about.

As for women being afraid of sharing this fetish with a man... fucking many are. All it takes is him to say one thing and our lives are effectively over. Prison is a real thing to worry about for a lot of women, and even if they avoid that... the social stigma will follow them for the rest of their lives. And since it's clear most men are unable to keep pics and videos private... just see practically every video shared on this site... many women are not willing to discuss this with any man in the real world or open up to a man in the real world about it because we know the consequences if he cant keep his mouth shut.
A recent example is the girl on twitter that information about her got out and she lost her job over it. She idiotically thought the LGBT community would protect her... but even they weren't stupid enough to touching that shit.

So now we've boiled the argument down to the fact that women aren't afraid to see dicks, but they're afraid to give consent. Why?
Because you're an asshole we dont want you in our life. That's why. We dont like you or like guys like you.
It's not us... its you.

Every women who's been treated like a piece of meat by a guy knows what to look out for. The fact that you've boiled down women to "their hole" and "being bred" is pretty clear evidence that you see women as nothing more than a masturbatory aide... and surprise surprise... most women dont appreciate that. Sure when we're horny we might, but that's a very small % of our lives.

The worst part is... You are actively making it harder for the decent guys on a site like this because you're such a overt example of how horrible guys can be. I've met a ton of great guys on this site, they are here... but you, your antics, and guys like them... make it harder on the decent men on this site. You are actively driving women to be more fearful and worried about the men they meet on a site like this.
And that's sad... and I do mean that... because the nice guys I've met on this site... I want them to be able to find someone they can be with and be happy with.
 
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